Gums, when you compare what we learned about actual aircraft handling compared to what is presently being taught in the puppy mills, it is night and day. Our training had a price however. Not counting the cost in Jet fuel, and bent aircraft, some of our peers did not survive it,
The whole thing is a cost-benefits tradeoff, but it seems to this old coot that it has gone much too far and seriously needs to become more comprehensive and balanced.
A crew not recognizing a stall! That just should not happen. Particularly with the amount of time they had at their disposal to recover.