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Old 17th Nov 2011, 20:51
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RetiredF4
 
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Dani
When you pull for a long time it trims this position to zero force. That's the definition of trim.
no, it trims not for zero force, it trims to maintain or achieve an ordered load factor.

As we know, autotrim not works on behalf of the SS inputs, but on the order of the FCPC, which has an ordered load factor of 1 g (no SS input) or a change (decrease or increase ) of this loadfactor (SS input).

Example (and this is not far away from AF447):
When in ALT2 and the aircraft is in a climbing trajectory (make it shallow or steep, the difference is only time) and the speed decreases (no autothrottle), the FCPC´s will position first the elevators and then the THS in order to maintain 1 g in the climb to compensate for the decreasing speed, even when SS is in neutral / untouched position.

Without preotections in ALT2 THS trim might even drive NU with a SS-ND input, if the increase in descent rate (like in the stall of AF447) decreases the loadfactor more than a small SS ND command would demand and elevators are already full NU.

Therefore machinebird got it right:
Dani, I would normally fully agree with your assessments, but the autotrim you know and love in Normal law is not the same autotrim in certain critical respects when in ALT2 law.
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