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Old 14th Nov 2011, 18:27
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DozyWannabe
 
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Franzl,

There's a world of difference between determining something is wrong and calmly and methodically taking over control (which is what I was talking about in your first quote) and taking the controls with little or no warning in the split-second it takes you to see the yoke in a place you don't want it to be (which you'll see is the case in your second quote if you follow the conversation through).
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