Dozywannabe
@Franzl, CONF:
The precise position of the stick is considerably less important than being able to work out that the stick is not where it should be. Once that is ascertained, then the only logical recourse is "I have control".
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That's fine theoretically, but realistically would you grab the control column or stick from your colleague without first verifying what is going on? Except in the extremest of circumstances I can't imagine that being the case. Whether you see/feel movement in a fraction of a second or a second or two via the instruments, would it not be prudent to first find out why they're doing what they appear to be doing?
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That's fine theoretically, but realistically would you grab the control column or stick from your colleague without first verifying what is going on?
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Originally Posted by Organfreak
Not that you were addressing me, but yes...in a heartbeat!
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You might want to think that through a bit. Remember that it's looking like instinctive manipulation of the controls without properly assessing the situation was what got them into this predicament in the first place.
Could you make up your mind?
In the first quote not knowing (seeing, recognizing) the action of the PF you recommend to take over control of the aircraft, and in the second quote being able to recognize (by whatever means) the wrong input now you want to start a discussion with the PF?
That any kind of takeover control should be verbally announced is self explanatory.
franzl