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Old 12th Nov 2011, 12:14
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Diagnostic
 
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@rudderrudderrat: Yes, very likely!

@Old Carthusian:

Originally Posted by Old Carthusian
Retired F4
Both the PF and PNF have displays with the same instrumentation on them. Your artificial horizon will tell you if the plane is climbing or banking. You derive your rate of climb (or descent) or descent from your altimeter.
Originally Posted by Old Carthusian
BOAC
Of course artificial horizon will tell you if you are climbing - what do you think the gap between the horizon line and whatever symbol is used for the aircraft means? Yes it means your nose is raised but it also can be used to ascertain that the aircraft is climbing.
[My emboldening above]

With respect, repeating the same incorrect statement multiple times, does not ever make it correct Members BOAC, Retired F4, rudderrudderrat etc. are absolutely right in refuting your assertion on this point.

Please consider the other name for the artificial horizon is the attitude indicator. It is not called a climb/decend indicator - it only shows the plane's attitude (relative to the ground). The Wikipedia article on the AI seems a reasonable introduction, and I respectfully suggest that you read it - note that it correctly explains about showing the plane nose-up or nose-down (regarding pitch), and it correctly does not state that nose-up == climbing, since that would be a fallacy.

Attitude indicator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To summarise:

- When you are climbing, the AI does usually show nose-up attitude.
- When the AI shows nose-up attitude, you are not necessarily climbing.
- Therefore use VSI or altimeter (not the AI), to see if you are climbing/decending.

Does this help to explain the type of replies you've been getting?

[Edited to add "usually" regarding AI indication in climb - turbulance is another factor which alters this indication, and is yet another reason why the AI cannot be relied upon to show climb/decend indication!]

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