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Old 10th Nov 2011, 02:27
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The 18 out of 100 that fly QANTAS is for all flights against all airlines that we don't even compete against.
You are seriously deluded if you think QANTAS does not compete with other airlines out of Australia just because QANTAS does not operate to other airlines hubs.

On the Europe routes there are a multitude of airlines that QANTAS has to compete with including Malaysian, Emirates, Qatar etc.

Just because QANTAS does not operate SYD-KUL-LHR doesn't mean they do not compete with those airlines that do.

The same with Dubai, QANTAS doesn't operate to Dubai (unless an engine goes bang or they forget to file a flightplan with one of the "stans")

Your logic suggests QANTAS doesn't compete with Emirates.
I'm not going to get into a dispute as to who is delusional or not. QANTAS competes with Emirates on the Singapore/Bangkok runs and to AKL, but not into the Middle East. That would be like saying Emirates is competing with QANTAS across the Pacific to the US. In that instance, Emirates has nothing on QANTAS. Nor does any other airline going across the Pacific that QANTAS is in direct competition.

QANTAS competes with airlines that fly to Europe from SIN, HKG and BKK. Does QANTAS compete with South African to Johannesburg? NO. They code share out of Sydney on a QANTAS plane, and codeshare out of Perth on a SAA plane.

As for market share, I'll use what's quoted from the Aust. Gov't website.

International Airline Activity - Monthly Publications

These figures are as of August this year. Many more statistics to choose from, but I'll use the most recent and the one that has supposedly affected QANTAS so much due to disputes. Page 11 of the report.


Top ten airlines
Share of passengers carried Aug-10 Aug-11
Qantas Airways 18.7% 17.7%
Air New Zealand 8.5% 8.6%
Jetstar 8.9% 8.6%
Singapore Airlines 8.5% 8.5%
Emirates 8.1% 7.5%
Pacific Blue 6.3% 6.9%
Cathay Pacific Airways 5.1% 5.1%
Malaysia Airlines 3.6% 4.2%
Thai Airways International 2.9% 3.5%

Garuda Indonesia 1.7% 2.1%

As can be seen from the figures, QANTAS has more than double the marketshare of all airlines for passengers carried in and out of Australia.

If we talk about capacity, QANTAS fared very well also. Their competitiveness is very strong, even losing some market share for the same period the previous year. Only the management is poor.
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