The shortest runway you have ever landed wth jet?

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TakeTheHighRoad,

Max your so full of crap....I have never seen a Falcon operate out of a 2500 ft field, and I've been doing this along times.

I have seen a Challenger 600 operating in and out of Locarno (LSZL) a lot of times.

Runway length 2625 ft.
LDA 26 2461 ft
LDA 08 2198 ft

JetPhotos.Net Photo » HB-IKS (CN: 5042) Air Charter AG Canadair CL-600-2B16 Challenger 601-3A by Pierre.

Imbalance, I call BS.

You throw around single pilot ops like it's nothing...sorry..and the idiot that departs in a jet with 1000 lbs is beyond stupid...even with a runway three minutes away...a simple closure, a gear problem, quickly turns into an emergency, and you don't have 30 minutes as VFR reserve anyway sitting around at say 5000 feet of alt if that was the 'hop' your talking about.

The BS is on your side.
1000 lbs is 1/4 of a full tank in a cj3 and 1/3 of a full tank in a CJ1.
I am not that stupit to put any data in here that I didn´t have checked twice.
Mimimum Fuel for this flight according EU Ops is 800 lbs. That includes 30 min final reserve at 3000 ft above alternate, alternate fuel and 5% contigency. The Flight is 10 nm only and 3 Alternates within 20 NM and another 4 within 36 NM.

I question a balanced field of 2700 ft, but even so, is that is a private op, or is it charter? If charter, your outside regs...unless your playing that game of private this trip, public that trip.

The Field lenght has been calculated with Cessnas CPCalc, the performance calculator made by cessna.

The CJ3 is corporate OPS, the CJ1 was commercial.
For Ferry flights we don´t have to add any factor to the afm performance data. The german CAA and also EASA is happy with it as long as there are no Passengers on Board.

Imbalance, I call BS.
And all said and done...the reason why you would need to fly into a 2700 ft strip given another one is so close by?

Can't be fuel, can't be jet maintenance...what reason to 'ferry' into that short strip to take that risk?

You are asuming a lot of things you don´t know nothing about.
It was for Jet maintenance.
As I said in my first post, Ganderkesee is the head office of Atlas Air Service. the biggest Cessna dealer in germany.
For a very long time their only maintenance facility has been at this short airfield. Now they have a workshop at Bremen as well. But sometimes when Bremen is full, you have any Problems that you can´t wait Bremen to accept you, we still have to go to Ganderkesee.

Even if everything you say is true, you can call the pilot up and call him a moron for me, because if there is a longer runway close by as you say, so close that justifies departing with only 1000 lbs of fuel, then there was no reason to go into the short runway to begin with, which questions the point of doing it all, questions the judgment which means a) your full of it b) that outfit is full of morons.

You are calling Pilots you don´t know Morons. Just for the reason that you don´t have any clue about the performance of this lovely little Jets and you don´t understand this kind of operation.

As long as the AFM says it is save to go, it is Ok for me. I will add my personal Factors and the insurance is happy with it.
I operate from a Homebase with 3200 ft runway, VFR, with 2 different Jets and 2 different turboprops. 24 hous a day, 7 days a week. I respect the Airlaw and I know where my limits are.
And by the way, I am doing this for 26 years now.

It is your choice to avoid this, but don´t tell me what to do or not to do.

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