Lemain, your position is that:
- demanding to have sex with someone and grabbing his penis and crotch area, is not invading someoneīs bodily integrity, is not meting out degrading treatment, but is merely 'silly behaviour and pretty harmless'.
- grabbing someoneīs genitals and demanding sex needs to be seen in proportion, and warrants the cutting of slack.
- being grabbed in the crotch is part and parcel of being a flight attendant, and a flight attendant therefore should not report it to the police.
- if a passenger gets a criminal conviction for sexual assault, and suffers the consequences of such a conviction, the blame for those consequences lies with the flight attendant and not with the person who did the grabbing.
- the flight attendant, after having his genitals grabbed by a passenger, has to think of the consequences for the grabber and not report.
The grabber does not have to think of the consequences of her own action, and should therefore not be made suffer the legal consequences of her behaviour.
You have not offered a single argument to explain the reasonableness of your position.
Not surprising, since there are none.
What you have done is blow a raspberry & try some ridicule.
Seeing if not admitting that you are defending the indefensible, you now attempt to divert the discussion by introducing your own definition of what is drunk and isnīt drunk.
For good measure, you add the old mainstay of those who have run out of arguments, "when did the world become so PC?"
As another red herring, you also insinuate that an FA who does not accept being grabbed in the crotch as an acceptable part of the job, will somehow not be robust enough to deal with panicking passengers in an emergency situation.
Since you are the person who brought up the story in the first place, it seems reasonable that you remember the sequence of events.
There is no mention of the FA not being able to deal with the passengerīs unwanted attention.
There is mention of the FA being groped, and "Virgin Atlantic can confirm that the VS602 from Johannesburg was met by police on arrival at Heathrow and a passenger was arrested."
As you well know, an FA does not get on the RT to request police at LHR.
Such a request is made by the captain of the flight, after having discussed the matter with his fellow pilot(s), the cabin chief and the FA involved.
The captain decided that it was a police matter.
You trying to somehow twist that fact into FAs who donīt want to be groped at work being unable to deal with an emergency situation, again shows your inability to proffer a reasonable argument supporting your ill thought out position is this matter.
Since it clear that you are unable to come up with anything that adds to this discussion, the value of this thread clearly lies in laying out for other FAs frequenting this forum why exactly it is that we need not accept being groped at work, and in making it clear that neither airline captains nor the law will deem such passenger behaviour acceptable.
Your thread has served a purpose
Lemain, even it is not the purpose you intended.
