Amos, your recent posts make me think you are getting senile. Let me paint the picture for you again!
As a result of the initial EBA meetings it was obvious that ALL Qantas pilots would be made redundant (over the next few years) and replaced by pilots based offshore - if we didn't fight we were definitely going to lose our jobs, by fighting management, there was a possibility of retaining them.
It is very clear and unambiguous so I can't understand your position. 