Qantas and BA same mentality.......who would have thought the pommes and the roos would agree on anything......my opinion.....and only an opinion.....which I believe we all have a right to, is times are tough, and us...(as pilots) not exempt. I think its about time the last of the dinasours in the left seat realize that its not the honeypot career it used to be and knucked down and did some work........