Well Mutt, It's the same thing, over and over...I come here and see you saying the same thing over and over, with not so much as an inkling as to knowing what your talking about....it's actually kinda sad. How many threads have we gone over with you basically being exposed for not having the information and evidence of what your talking about? So I come here and expose the posers once in a while. Deal with it. When you and John, and the others are willing to have a conversation, and actually finish the conversation on flex, airline hiring practices, why airlines will run an engine out to 30,000 hours etc....then I will be gone. Your avoidance is akin to cock roaches running under the fridge when the lights go on.