@ linktrained : i think applying TOGA in FL 350-380 in a non event, the engines by far do not develop the thrust they do in sealevel and are running at this altitude already close to the max available. when they descended lower- when i,m correct - the engines were set to idle . they crashed with engines idling and - but here an airbus driver may further comment, not fully sure- in alternate law alpha protection is lost and the engines will not go into TOGA by themselfes.
@ thermostat : of course the best is to prevent a critical situation and not to fight one. and of course its always a bad idea to fly CB,s . but some "fighting" skills should also be present. three people starring for 3.5 minutes at a high pitch / massive descend aircraft without knowing its a stall in my opinion also cannot be the answer to modern aviation safety.