I think we're talking about the same airline. The one where Barbara Cassani once said that "negative equity isn't a problem when you're a subsidiary of a larger airline" after having to go back to BA for more dosh after 12 months and where 3i got cold feet very quickly and looked for a sale far faster than ever anticipated after an ill-judged foray onto Scotland-Dublin/Belfast routes against easyJet and Ryanair which saw cash flying out the door? That the one?