Originally Posted by Dani
it might have been possible of course. Probable, but unlikely.
- I am just not understanding your posts right now. Recovery, in my opinion, could have been 'definite and likely'. To suggest otherwise is to imply that the elevators could not lower the nose, and heaven knows where that will take yet another 447 thread.
I still have two basic things I do not understand
1) Why the aircraft climbed/was climbed
2) Why not one of the three pilots was able to recognise nose high/huge rate of descent for the fact that it just was not 'flying'. I will give the crew the benefit of the doubt that if they had recognised it they would have taken the correct recovery action although the cock-eyed stall warning logic would not help.
1) is for the investigators
2) is for the training system - teaching crews they still need to be able to fly, to ignore bizarre and misleading audio messages and that the a/c will not protect them regardless.