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Old 1st November 2002 | 11:59
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Mike Cross
 
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From: Savannah GA & Portsmouth UK
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Hi Bpilatus

>>Why won't the IT people tell you if the proposals can be applied?

Assuming that's not a rhetorical question :-) .....

I didn't say they wouldn't tell us, just that they hadn't commented on our proposals. The information on feasibility and costs would have to come from Thales IS, which would mean AIS have to ask Thales IS in order to get the answer. I don't know whether AIS have done so yet but hope that they will have the information in time to provide an informed response at the meeting on 15 Nov.

>>If they cannot be applied, where does that leave the users?

I think it unlikely that the proposals CANNOT be applied. Their application might be seen as too expensive to implement or undesirable on policy grounds, in which case we would be back where we started.

>>are these the same IT gurus who set up swanick?

As far as I am aware Thales IS were not involved with Swanwick. I believe the main software contractor was Lockheed Martin. I have no way of knowing whether any of the individuals working within NATS were involved with Swanwick. However I suspect it would be fair to say that NATS was the customer in both projects.

>>Why if Thales see this forum has nothing been done. If my company got such bad publicity I would want it fixed now not in three months time.

So would I!
[email protected] would probably be a good place to address this query, quoting the product name ANAIS and naming the UK AIS website. If enough of us asked we might get a statement.

I suspect also that NATS expected the implementation to be a lot easier than it has been and it may be that the resources they allocated are overstretched as a result.


>>I reckon this is just stalling. When you have your meeting NATS will tell you that it cannot be done or they cannot afford it or some other garbage and they could have told us already.

I've now had the opportunity to speak to Phil Bate, who has assured me that there will be positive proposals at the meeting and that we can expect attendance from NATS senior management.


>>and my other question from before. what happens if nothing happens after your meeting? What next?

I suspect an all-out blitz on the media and MP's with attendant bad publicity for NATS, the CAA and Thales IS. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

>>they have had too much time to think of excuses we should have kept pressure on instead of them seeing no comments here since you guys started your meetings.

We have been trying to keep the pressure on, hence my postings asking people to make their views heard by the relevant people.
I know a lot of people have already e-mailed [email protected] with their views - please keep it up.
Keeping the debate alive on the forums is very important too, the more people who post the better.

Many thanks for your input

Mike
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