Thanks for all your comments chaps,
I am still learning, the purpose of this post was to see other people's techniques were and wack down a few notes, which i have done. I will have a chat with my instructor next week and see what he says.
When i have found something that is not absolutely straight-forward I like to get a few opinions, including my instructor's, chat to him and evaluate what I have found. It works well as it enables us to explore various situations, and why it would be better to use a certain technique at a certain time, and another at a different time.
Anyway, Cheers
FS