BOAC-
DC-ATE - are you saying you were in a 'deep stall' (whatever you think that is) with 10kfpm down at 10k in IMC?
Hi, BOAC. I don't recall now [it was over 40 years ago !!] what the descent was, but it was nowhere near 10K FPM. Probably on the order of 1500 FPM. As to 'deep' or 'full' stall, I think it was deep. There was NO elevator control at all. I think it was because we had at least 4 inches of ice on the stab. That's how much was on the wing when we turned on the ice light and then the wing heat. [No tail heat on that bird, as I said earlier] Maybe ice was involved in AF447; that hasn't been mentioned. All I know is I managed to recover "my way" vs the "book" way. But, again, we digress.
punkalouver-
What amazes me is that you appear to have still not figured out how incredibly poor airmanship you had on that night. In fact you talk like you think you are a good pilot.
Not sure what you're getting at. This was a training flight and I was flying right seat at the time. It's the Instructor who showed "poor airmanship" as far as I'm concerned by being there in the first place and NOT knowing WHAT to do to recover.