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Old 12th Oct 2011, 19:48
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@Clandestino:
Originally Posted by Clandestino
You might want to have a look at interim2, pages 100-103. 37 330/340 crews faced with the same problems as AF447's did. In real life, not sim. All survived. Surprise, surprise.
With respect, sir, you (and the BEA) do not know that those "37" other crews faced "the same" problems as AF447 (how many of the multiple elements of each situation are you comparing?). Of course those events listed in interim 2 appendix 7 are believed to be icing events of 2 or more pitot probes, but that is the only similarity which the BEA state. As the BEA explain in interim report 2, there is insufficient data gathered for most of the other events, for detailed examination. Only 13 events had enough information for such examination (see interim report 2, section 1.16.3, PDF page 51 onwards).

As I said to you on 31 Aug the behaviour of some other crews where such detail is known, is not without fault either - so the degree to which AF447 is an exception is far from black & white.

Of course AF447 are the only crew to crash, but that is a very superficial view, IMHO. Look deeper into section 1.16.3 which I mention above, and several similarities with (incorrect) crew behaviour are seen amongst other crews too.
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