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Old 10th October 2011 | 18:10
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ShyTorque

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From: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
It has been a problem as long as I can remember and the first time I crossed was over thirty years ago.

These days I don't even ask and plan to fly round, even if I'm landing at LHR, because there is nothing passengers hate more than being put into a tight orbit to hold. Especially if they don't travel well.

Have you considered routing via Burnham - Ascot-Thorpe - OCK. Even less likely to result in a hold is WOD- Ascot-Thorpe- OCK, ATC seem to like these routes.
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