Thanks for that, so Rail = LoCo as far as payrises are concerned. Although Pilots should be concerned about pay differentials and we have certainly lost ground over the years, there are still a hell of a lot of us earning a hell of a lot more than 50k. It is tempting for those at the bottom end of the scales to sound off here (with ample justification, having spent 100k to get a 20k a year job), but, and assuming we pilots don't allow further erosion of T&c's, we do have the oppotunity of earning around about 100k after a number of years and a few of us up to 150k. We, at least have career progression, where the tube man gets his 50k and won't be on a lot more in 30 years. (Bob Crowe having been retired by then).