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Old 27th September 2011 | 19:16
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B2N2
 
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That's not possible. You can't hold the student pilot certificate and the 61.75 Private at the same time.
Yes, you can. It is specifically allowed if the 61.75 certificate was issued prior to the issuance of a standard US pilot certificate, ie a student pilot certificate.
Source:
Flight Standards Information System (FSIMS)
FSIMS Document Viewer
5-597 U.S. PILOT CERTIFICATES THAT MAY BE ISSUED TO A PERSON WHO HOLDS A FOREIGN PILOT LICENSE.
Look under C (3)

So after you have met the pre solo training requirements, which can be completed in 2-3 flights and the night flying requirements met you can be allowed to fly solo at night on a solo endoresement. No passengers.
You are now excercising the priviliges of a US student pilot certificate and not your 61.75 certificate.

So during the day you carry passengers and you can go anywhere you like and during night you are solo and limited to what your instructor has endorsed you to do.

The FAA will answer the question that you ask, everything stated by BigCrecian is correct (almost everything ) but the "FAA answer" given may not specifically apply to 61.75
By their own admission the FAA is not the most standardized institution in the world. Some regulations are very specific and some are vague and open to more interpretation. You may even have a letter of authorization from the FAA that was issued based on incorrect or incomplete information.
You may have a letter of authorization from the local FSDO based on correct information provided but a wrong interpretation and it is revoked later.
Wouldn't be the first time. Doesn't make it right.

61.75 is a validation based on your foreign qualifications. It carries the restrictions of your foreign license.

I. Added Ratings to a U.S. Pilot Certificate. If a person requests that a rating be added to his/her U.S. pilot certificate on the basis of meeting the appropriate pilot certification requirements of part 61 (i.e., the practical test and the knowledge test, if applicable), those requirements must be accomplished before the issuance of that additional rating. However, if the person requests the added rating on the basis of that rating having been added to his/her foreign pilot license, no knowledge test or practical test is required. The authenticity of the foreign license must be verified before adding the appropriate rating.
So "night priviliges" on the 61.75 can only be "added" after a night-rating has been added to the foreign pilot certificate.
A new application and license verification must be completed.

So if you really can't help yourself and you have a letter from the local FSDO authorizing it, go ahead. Doesn't make it right.

You can't have everything in life.

*** I don't want to be an @ss about this, but I am ready to stand corrected if you bring a reliable source or reference. As in on this date this Inspector (initials fine) sent me an email of which I now quote (copy and paste) the following:Remember people are asking us for advise and may very well only use our answer as a reference and get in trouble as a result of it ****

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