I joined MAS during dato k's time and he was indeed pathetic with his retinue of hangar ons. That's the time the rat, the ex mapa prez guru singh, zero zero 1, zul, and a whole bunch of clowns ran riot with their turf grabbing, throwing caution to the wind. Little did they realise that the camel was collecting ammunitions to blast them out later leading to 2 years of utter darkness.