NTE (NBS!) - I like your style
Spanner - The reason that pigs are flying past your window is because people like you are quite happy to cower behind the parapet. If you have a backbone then use it to stand up and be counted!
And yes, I realise that in the real world that people have suffered from detriment as a result of disagreeing with the management. This is just another good reason to stand up to them.
Bring on the custard pies
nosig - what planet are you on?
just remember we are on the same side. Crews don't choose to refuse discretion in order to **** off crewing and ops, but because we feel that it would not be safe to continue. These points being raised are not directed at those departments, but the reprehensible and incompetent management who are responsible for this mess.