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3holelover, I agree with most of what you say. I will go a step further by saying that part of airmanship is not to fly a heavy airplane at high altitude near the coffin corner, through Cb's. I get a kick out of the entire discussion about different "laws" and how to recover from a high altitude stall etc. etc. when this whole thing could have been avoided by diverting around the storm. That simple !! It's unbelievable how much this thread has gone off on a tangent to somehow blame the 'plane or the lack of knowledge in high altitude stall recovery. And one other thing. It wasn't ice crystals that caused the pitot blockage, it was supercooled water which froze on contact with the pitots. That same SC water would have made the AOA vane inoperative also. It would be helpful if we could stick to the real facts in all discussions. Just stay away from CBs at high altitude. End of story.