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Old 31st Aug 2011, 15:59
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Y0SSARIAN
 
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guaranteed minimum annual base salary of $57,118
Is this a joke?
Agreed, but that's the JQ EBA pay rate for a "Junior FO" who is defined as a pilot operating as an FO who doesn't have an ATPL. At least these cadets are limited to two years max on this pitiful salary, whereas the EBA could keep them there for much longer.


Have you explained to all the Jetstar pilots that the " part time " pilots will be used to stop them from getting called out on days off for the enormous money they get for that ?
I don't think you understand the policy. PT pilots get 15-16 days off a month. They get the same money for being called out on a day off as do full timers. They can't be rostered for standby. What incentive does JQ have for calling in a PT pilot for "day off" work over a full time guy?

Have you also explained to the Jetstar f/o's that now there is carte Blanche to employ direct entry Capts over the top of them forever ?
Once again I fail to understand your logic. JQ can't make command upgrades or base/type changes conditional on FL employment. Many JQ FO's will be bypassed by QF MOU guys coming across. The fact is that these FO's were aware of the MOU when they joined, so whilst it's a case of poor timing for them, everything in this regard is above board and in accordance to what was agreed upon prior to their employment.

What is Flexi-Line employment?
McG- Lawrie has given a brief synopsis of this in his post. It is basically reduced divisor flying with more days off. i.e. you are subjected to a min guarantee of 75% of the full time salary but can only be rostered to work 75% of the days that a full timer can. Extra flying on top of the min. guarantee is at the same overtime rate as for full timers. Day off flying is at the same rate too.

Overall this policy means that cadets are only bonded for 3 years/ $36k and do not need to make any repayments on debts incurred for their training. The full time salary for a new hire FO at JQ is $87 262. On Flexi- Line employment the base salary for a new hire FO is $65 447. A new hire needs to pay off a $36k debt through salary sacrifice over 33 months.

After paying off their endorsement debt to JQ a new hire FO would not be any better off than a cadet if they both worked minimum hours. If the two pilots worked longer than min hours then the "direct entry FO" would be better off because their hourly pay is higher.

All this is not trying to justify the substandard conditions of the JQ EBA, but rather to point out that it is the EBA, and not the Flexi-Line employment model or the deal that has been offered to the cadets recently that is inadequate.

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