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Old 31st Aug 2011, 10:37
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Originally Posted by xcitation
PF/PNF did fly pitch and power but it was for the low altitude UAS as they had practiced in the sim, Rio departure, 3 months prior to the incident. The key difference being the high 15 deg pitch at low altitude UAS compared with 5 deg pitch high altitude (now revised 2.5 degree). No high altitude UAS was trained for in the sim. Therefore it would appear they both applied the nearest training they had in the abscence of specific training.
I disagree, here.
Had they followed the same drill as in their sim check (Rio depature) they would have :
- indeed seeked for 15° pitch attitude
- but also set TOGA at the same time.

TOGA was selected around 02:10:50, i.e. 40" after the NU first input, and at a time where the PF was lowering the nose, and just after the stall warning begun.
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