Originally Posted by
HarryMann
Could I remind everyone, that if I remember correctly, PF had recently arrived in the cockpit from a rest period.
Sorry, that was the PNF - we discussed it on the R&N thread, and he seems to have been fairly alert, to judge by the CVR. The PF had been in the right-hand seat since pushback. There was a suggestion that the PF had actually been on holiday in Brazil with his wife, so your suggestion could have merit in another way - should someone who has had several days off be put in a "relief pilot" role over the guy who flew the outbound leg?
Of course if neither of them had had manual handling training, that question could be academic, but I'm struck by the difference in handling approach by the two F/Os. The PNF appears to be doing as one would expect, gingerly handling the controls until the aircraft starts pointing the way he wants it to go, whereas the PF seems to be handling them with a frankly astonishing coarseness from the outset.