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Old 27th August 2011 | 00:03
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airtren
 
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Dozywannabe,

It's in the realm of talent, training and practicing.

I am aware of two Airbus 310 day light Successful Stall Recoveries in Europe - Interflug and Tarom, both A310 - in which pilots, in spite of the mistakes that created the Stall situations, were able to prove their airmanship, and mastering of their profession and tools in the cockpit, including the THS wheel, by recovering from what would have been unrecoverable situations, and landed safely, with no injuries, or damage to the airplanes.

It was not some corporate procedure document they've read at Stall that saved them.

From what I understand, those pilots, were from a generation in which training was not different than that of the military pilots.

So they had it in their reflexes, didn't have to think much, what to do right away in a stall.

From what I've read, at 4100ft, and 30kt AoA NU at 60 degrees, - yes forty one hundred feet - from where the Tarom A310 recovered, there was not much time. The Captain and FO leveled the plane at 800ft, from nose dive to regain speed. The captain used the THS Wheel, like the Stick, with quick, soft, short (time-wise) commands....

Originally Posted by DozyWannabe
@airtren - Speaking purely theoretically and from the technical evidence I have, if the manual trim wheel is moved then there isn't a damn thing any protection can do to stop it, and if you hold it in position, there's nothing it can do to change it either. It's way outside normal procedure, but let's face it - this flight profile was nothing if not way outside anything that went into the book.

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