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Old 25th Aug 2011, 02:57
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Slasher
 
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Thanks for your replies, much appreciated.

Piltdown this SE Asian outfit still live in the Dark Ages where
if you aren't justified in going around you need "councelling".
Councelling is a nice way of saying you get a medium-sized
boot up the bum and the event marked on your record (no it
doesn't incur any salary loss - if it did I'd pack up and leave).

Why do they do it? Because a GA costs them money and they
don't like a GA that they think was unnecessary - well as the
fact I'm an expat.

All GAs require a written report from the captain - wx or any
hazardous situation usually isn't questioned (but they'll check
the recorded ATIS or METAR or RVR at the time in question).
But only this time I did a go around in good weather with an
apparently clear runway (well as it appeared to me).

ATCs reply to the Company was that the Tower bunny* was in
the process of checking the runway was clear by visual means
and that.....had I not been so impatient, a clearance would've
been issued by touchdown. IMO she wasn't..."checking" - she
had a mouthful of rice or bloody noodles, which explains the
"...er...." and after she'd swallowed it then issued the landing
clearance.

As I implied earlier, a landing clearance (not a touchdown
clearance) is exactly that - a clearance to start and complete
the landing manouver which by strict definition begins at 50ft.

Anyway this prompted me to post here to ask what you guys
believe how late a landing clearance can be legally issued. I
am sticking to my guns, but does anyone know where I can
download an updated 4444?

* our nickname for the young female ATCers around here.

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