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Old 22nd August 2011 | 00:28
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Lyman
 
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From: Grassy Valley
Zorin, bear with me.

447 is descending rapidly with a reasonable attitude, if you dislike reasonable, call it consistent, dependable even. Her airspeed is divided about equally into horizontal and vertical components. I don't know if you have flown this, but it is not a freak show. She had power, directional stability, and active elevators. She literally could have slowly recovered cruise flight. The idea would be to arrest the descent, increase forward speed, and get the Nose into the airstream, not in bias to it.

Slowly. When the PF dropped the NOSE, and heard the STALL WARNING, he was averting disaster by pulling UP, not inviting further problems.

Machinbird has just explained it to you. Had I the gift and the experience he has, I could do it. You want to see the Shiite, and won't open your mind even a feeble little crack.

If PF had continued lowering the nose through STALL, and kept it there, the a/c would have been lost immediately.

I think the PF learned alot from the moment he wiped the sleep out his eyes and took command. He didn't quite get that staying on the upside of the horn was the thing to do, just not so much. That STALL WARNING was real, accurate, and told him the truth.

You want someone to say that this "STALL" merely wanted a conventional recovery, and anyone who can't give one is bogus. Listen to Machinbird, or gums, or especially OK465. There are times when a/c don't fly the way they're 'posed to. And won't. If these gents had gone to school with gums, or Mach, they would have recovered the final descent, easies.

But then they wouldn't have had the initial screw up, either.

This is not gibberish. Alas it isn't in the place you want it. You want nuthin' from me, so listen in other places.

all the best, the solution is at hand.
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