I could say a lot on that and its all been said , its apples and oranges though. The fact is that Management are there to manage, their job is to keep shareholders happy. Ours is to fly planes. If we do that badly we pay. If they do badly we still pay. If you would like to be in management go for it but while you are a pilot you should fly, with your zip up and in a professional manner. You cannot seriously compare these two discussions. Im sure now if you caught management doing the same thing in the board room with a crew member they would be fired too...you can be sure of that!