WJApilot I think you are the one losing street cred. making posts like your last one. Ryanair (not RYAN AIR) successfully operates around three times as many 737s as Westjet if that is who you work for. Those who have flown the 737 a bit longer remember various old procedures. Hopefully with experience SOPs are improved and we can lessen the risk of having our mistakes disected on PPRuNe including at least three recent landing accidents at night with the NG in central america / carribbean.