Been following the thread for a while and some good valid points are being put across from both sides but some folks are arguing for the sake of it, @Dozzy i think you are missing the point or deliberately trying to push peoples buttons, it had been earlier explained very clearly that the NWA 727 crew didnt push nose down though they had a yoke, simply because they both believed that their actions were correct trying to recover from a percieved overspeed as opposed to the AF PF who had no clue what he was doing and his PM had no way of seeing his control column inputs.
Now i crawl slowly back to my woodwork...