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Old 16th Aug 2011, 10:32
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RetiredF4
 
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Safety Concerns

The sad fact in most of these accidents but not all is that the pilots are not in tune with the a/c. There may well be a case for a different training approach but there is NOT a safety case to change the technology.
A strong statement, but does it take care of the human nature?
Do we believe that people, in this case pilots, can be trained sufficiently to follow all technological evolutions without limits (under the present training budget)? Isnīt it necessary to develop the evolution of technology in accordance with the capabilities of the operator and under recognition of the available training?

To be in tune with the aircraft is not only a training issue, its also a design issue.

If design would disregard the human factor (and it does in case of the missing tactile feedback, in case of the intermittent stall warning, which by the way was already a known issue years ago, in case of documentation like in LH at Hamburg) then only a small number of top notch pilots would be eligable to be trained and hired for the job (causing higher costs for training and salary).

.........but there is NOT a safety case to change the technology
It finally depends on the side, from where you are looking at that matter. The manufacturer and his engineers will see no need until the regulatory authority comes into play. And a lot of changes take place anyway later on or even before the final report shows up, but for sure not related to any kind of accident, that would nag on reputation and finally on sale numbers.

The human race has gone lots of different streets, and lots of errors and the recognition and avoidance of those in the future brought us to the point we are standing now. Itīs not at all bad to accept error also in technical matters, because also designers and engineers are humans and not gods.

Sorry to say that here, but sometimes some technical people here seem to be unfailable.

No need to change anything, it worked as designed...............

There are lot of sound recomendations of the pilot community in this forum how some changes would improve the handling of advanced designed aircraft
(AOA indicator, tactile feedback, different law degradation, other trim logic to name a few), why not start working on the implementation of it?

The training side probably changed UAS training and approach to stall training already, lots of pilots sure as hell are busy in improving their knowledge database concerning UAS, flightlaws, stalls, trim..., but the engineering side is occupied by defending .........what???

It might be time to side with the people in the pointy end and make those beautiful air machines safer, close some holes in the swiss cheese in a unified effort.

Together we are strong, arguing against each other will not help much but disqualify it as saving his own a**.
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