To be honest, there has been a trend on the airlines that have been noticeably doing this on quite a consistent basis recently. I just did not wish to discriminate on a public forum, I just wondered if there was something we were missing, as it really can be a big safety issue at times. Just another question then to put to you guys, there also appears to be (across every airline) a bit of laxness in reporting cleared FL on first contact with a new frequency. Again, when we are busy, there is nothing more frustrating than having to ask the pilot to report his cleared level. For us, this is a mandatory requirement, we have to have the cleared FL confirmed in order for us to take positive control of the aircraft. Is this a result of the fact that very very rarely nowadays, there is any sort of familiarisation between pilots and ATCO's?