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Old 4th Aug 2011, 03:29
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Fox3WheresMyBanana
 
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OK, after reading the English version:

1 None of the pilots are even looking at the attitude indications OR

2 The PF is ignoring the stall warner because of the unreliable speeds, and

3 The PF is flying the stall warning / unreliable airspeed procedures for the Take-Off/Go-Around phase of flight, i.e. aiming for 15 degrees Nose-Up attitude, not the high altitude procedure.

Look at the stick input and pitch attitude after 2:11:00. The PF is trying to maintain 15 degrees pitch attitude. He states "I'm in TOGA".

At only one point, before 2:11:00 when the PNF insists, does the PF consistently apply Nose-Down controls. After that I think it's clear he's convinced they have a high speed situation because of the buffet, and thus completely fails to spot the stall.

I think it's possible that the PNF does think they are stalled when the Stall warner sounds at 2:10:51. The power comes up and he warns the PF about lateral stick. But the PNF either doesn't realize or doesn't see a problem with the PF trying to maintain 15 degrees NU.

No emergency procedures are verbally identified. No drills are done. No cross-checks of Attitude, or anything else, are called.

I'm not flying Air France again.

Thoughts on this theory anyone?

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