lonewolf...my concern is that PF may well have been more than just worried about overpeed.Its clear he had lost his initial crucial scan,was overcontrolling, and I feel as the aircraft slowed with zoom climb,may well have crossed the rubicon of lapsing into a sensory interpretation of what the aircraft was doing.I feel the decleration he was experiencing in the late stages of the climb, heightened by marked anxiety,probably ended in a somatogravic illusion of acceleration, and persistent nose up inputs unto death.
The rest was history, as the situation required immediatre transfer of control to PNF, whose spatial orientation and understanding of the situation appears clearly superior throughout. No time for egalitarian social norms.
When the birds hit the 737 over Manhattan, pretty much the first action fronm Sullenberger was.." My Aircraft".
Last edited by Mimpe; 3rd Aug 2011 at 13:14.