AF 447 Thread No. 5

[airtren]

Hello Takata,

To your own advantage: getting yourself side tracked, by focusing on “how I have read your post, mind or imagination”, instead of “how you wrote your own posts”, is not going to resolve the lapse in consistency of using your own criteria, which I’ve got myself side tracked to point out.

The Saviola, ChristianaaJ and others’ posts regarding “il viens”, being about the Captain and not an “object – the a/c”, had clues about the use of “il”, that apply to this case too.

Some say that “you have to have it inside, or hear it in your ears”, the way French, and colloquial French differentiate between referring to persons and objects by using a “demonstrative pronoun” instead of “personal pronoun” when referring to objects:

It's “c’est ou ca?” or “’c’est ou cela?” instead of “il est ou”....

So, I am pretty sure, “il est ou, euh” is referring to the Captain, as the PNF uttered that while getting to the "buzzer button"...…

Finally, I should follow “jcjeant” and others’ suggestion, that we’ve spent already too much time on this …..

Originally Posted by takata

Hi airtren,

Don't be so short sighted. I mentioned that it may be a "part of the documentation" (generic class), because maybe you didn't noticed, but there is no mention of any procedure applied by the pilots and we know that there was no ECAM procedure until later. This could also explain why the captain was called back when the PNF was looking for "it".

The gender of the word (for "it") is certainly not ruling out such hypothesis; in fact, there is plenty of words that could fit: "classeur", "manuel".... he could meant also "ce putain de truc/machin/bordel..."