The VNV assured it's members that KLMuk pilots choosing the KLCuk option will keep the same terms and conditions as they now have for the rest of their careers. It worries me to read here that Buzz is trying to give them pay cuts when they crossover and that KLCuk is trying to worm out of their pension responsibilities, especially because I have heard that from KLMuk line pilots as well. I don't think that they will be able to get away with either of those plans.