First, for what is worth: the French pronouns ("prenomes"), like the nouns they replace, have in French two genres: masculine, or feminine. "il' is the masculine form, so it would translate into the English "he" for a person, or "it" for an object or animal.
In this case, I have NO doubts, that the PNF's ""il vient ou pas" - "is he coming or not?" is "Lonewoolf_50's" interpretation, in terms of referring to the Captain.
Indeed, it seem to show the frustration in regards to the PFs actions, but also with his limitations as well in changing the situation, without the Captain's presence
But, it's quite a long stretch to say that he refers to the "a/c controls response", instead of the Captain. That's something a non fluent French speaker would not know.
The "il descend ou non?" would be first on the list, with others as well, while, "il viens ou non?" would not even be on the list, not only in terms of meaning, but also in the context of an emergency call placed shortly before with the Captain, and in the context of using "descend/monte" relative to the "a/c" and PF actions shortly before.
airtren
Originally Posted by
takata
Originally Posted by Lonewoolf-50
I just had a weird thought:
The PNF was wondering "why is captain not back in the cockpit?" at some point. Perhaps, on his way back to his rest station, he had to visit the lavatory, ...
This is based on something said by the PNF, I presume. But it is not the meaning I understood myself from the context:
- 2 h 11 min 06 : (…) il vient ou pas
The French pronom "il" is undefined, it may be related to something or someone. But all the discussion between pilots is about aircraft control up to this point and after this point. PNF wanted the PF to control his pitch during the climb. It is obvious that he is irritated by PF way of flying and slow corrections. PNF is very authoritative and PF seems quite stubborn.
So, I would interpret this sentence related to aircraft control, not to the captain: it sounds like an exprimed PNF concern about aircraft response time to imputs from the PF:
- have you got a response or not? (implying: I'm asking you to correct your pitch for a while but I can't see that we are going down)