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Old 30th Jul 2011, 19:40
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jcjeant
 
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Hi,

takata write:

It was a speculation. Cockpit seats were recovered and they never gave further details about who was or wasn't seated. Hence, don't take it as a fact.
No further details ?

Interim report N°3 page 41

F-GZCP – 1er
juin 2009 - 41 -

1.12.4.2.1 3 Les sièges du cockpit

Sur le siège situé en place gauche, les ceintures ventrales étaient attachées, la ceinture de
l’entrejambe et les harnais d’épaules ne l’étaient pas.

Sur le siège situé en place droite aucune ceinture n’était attachée.
So at least they give details about the state of the seat belts
This is not so important to know if the pilots were remaining in their seat .. as we know who was seated when airplane was flying ..
It's (speculation) almost certain that the PF was not retrieved in his seat .. (no secured seat belts)

Report #1 was 30 days after the crash, Nr.#3 is 25 months later. In between, they have completed what could have been lacking (few dates) at the time of the first one. Don't you think it's quite probable?
About the CV's .. you know that BEA will collect the CV's and not parts from there or there ...
The CV is complete when collected and it was certainly not interest from Air France or other authorized agencies to give incomplete CV with a lack of mention of a important thing as a license .... !!
Nothing personnal .. I just read the reports of the BEA ...
Anyone who read it will find those differences ...

takata

a) he is ordering the PF: climb! climb! climb! climb!
b) he is encouraging the aircraft to go up;
Remonte ! remonte! remonte! remonte!
If you native language is french you know certainly that is not concerning something on the panel
He tell just to climb again .. to take more altitude
or maybe he is indeed encouraging the aircraft (he speak to the aircraft - irrational) and this if true show a certain state of intense stress or panic.

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