But you guys are missing the point. To do aviation from the sea properly (including manning all of the positions mentioned by Running) takes a career of operating from the sea (and wanting to). You can't do this by attaching the odd one or two guys to an RAF unit, there needs to be sufficient mass to create a career path from Mid to Cdr and beyond. The RAF know this only too well which is exactly why they are arguing to maintain all the capability they can. The RN understand this which is why they are fighting so hard to retain CHF as a formed RN unit. It is why the RN are manning up F18s and carrier decks in the USN at this moment.