Hi Lonewoolf_50 (post #918)
The Tarom pilots were on "the top of it", from the start of the ascent, before the stall, and during the undesired ascent, trying to bring the nose down. The A/THR pushed the HTS all the way UP. According to the BEA report, at some point the HTS was full UP, the Elevators full DOWN. Remember this guys were at 60 degree pitch up, and 30knots, at stall, and they still managed to turn the nose downwards, get enough speed and lift, to level at 800ft (within 3300ft)....
Now the AF 447's 10000ft/min could have worked to their advantage, of having an initial speed, had they been able to just pitch it down enough, from the nose up pitch, so that the falling speed would have started putting lift into the wings.
airtren
Originally Posted by
Lonewolf_50
I doubt that aircraft developed a 10,000 fpm rate of descent. (And good thing, the pilots reacted promptly!
Overcoming that 10,000 fpm from first unstalling, then getting knots on, then recovering with a nice firm pull without heading toward accelerated stall, since you are not in Normal Law ... how much altitude that takes is a question worth thinking through.