Originally Posted by
glenbrook
OK, this is the real report. It is very clear that PF was confused from the start and disbelieved airspeed. PNF kept telling him to descend, at one point saying "all three say you are climbing so descend";.
At one point PNF says ";we still have engines so whats happening"; presumably referring to the low airspeed.
2:12:27 PNF You're climbing (Stall warning), Descend descend descend descend
PF I was descending then?
PNF, Descend
Captain: No, you're climbing
PF: There I am climbing, ok now descend
...And tellingly, the Captain says :
Originally Posted by AF447 CVR Transcript
2 h 12 min 19 -> 2 h 12 min 45 : Horizon Horizon - Standby Horizon
Shades of Birgenair indeed:
Originally Posted by Birgenair CVR transcript
0346:00 (46:22) CAM-3 *ADI
...
0346:31 (46:53) CAM-3 *ADI*
Admittedly this is from a Google Translate of that particular section of the document, but the question in my mind is the same as in Birgenair - why did the PNF (who appeared to have a better understanding of the situation) not take control earlier?
One question for our Gallic cousins - do I interpret "Tu montes" and "Tu descends descends" as literally climb and descend, or could the PNF be referring to attitude (nose-up/nose-down) here?
[EDIT : Corrected Captain's statement - thanks for the catch! ]