Hi mm43,
Originally Posted by mm43
With the ongoing discussion over the what the crew may have heard, seen or felt in the stalled environment, I believe the following should be noted...
I'll add also few additional notes for those who are following this discussion:
When the second stall warnings
sounded, at
0210:51 (see mm43 graph):
- @ FL375, aircraft was
NOT in "abnormal attitude": pitch (~7°), Alpha (6°) and roll (10/12°) were
NOT excessive, airspeed (215 kt) was
NOT totally lost.... and THS (
3NU) was
NOT at maximum (14NU)... and of course, the aircraft was
NOT stalled.
Everything seriously wrong started at this point and
during the following 10 seconds:
- TOGA was applied (NU limited effect);
-
Sustained NU sidestick orders;
- Pitch increasing from 7 to 16°;
- Alpha increasing from 6 to 16°;
- another 500 ft were added, reaching FL380;
- Speed falling from 215 to 185 kt;
- THS
starting moving UP, (but reaching 13°NU only one minute
LATER = close to the end of mm43 graph)
- The aircraft stalled at the apogee.... while the STALL, STALL warnings sounded at least
40 seconds more
during the stall.