Jamesdevice - Great idea. Problem is that AW have just been lent £22m by HMG to start a civil helicopter, AW 169, build line so they won't care about the MOD contract, especially as the MOD cash cow is empty. Cash for Mk4....... you have 2 hopes. Mr Cable said at Yeovil today, the government is short of money but they want to help Westlands convert from the military to civil market. Why do that if a big juicy MOD contract was in the pipeline?