Well Geeup, plenty of food for thought and discussion above. SIMUL8D, your arrival in Hagen was noted by many in and out of Hevilift, I'm sorry it did not work out for you. There is much I could add to your post but discretion is the better part of valour and all that. If you are keen to experience PNG and have DHC-6 time why not apply to APNG? As Geeup said APNG would have about the best deal just about anywhere in the world for Otter drivers (captains) right now.