Jetstar, Jetstar Int, Jetstar Viet etc etc etc ... were they born on their own?
No.
Have they set up their own operation through their own investment?
No.
Qantas, Qantas mainline has enabled these 'managers' to set up various off shoots of Qantas. Making profits by selling the reputation of Qantas.
Qantas International is making money. Creative accounting says otherwise. PIA, and voting yes, will cut at the heart of the airlines ability to make money. Jetstar makes money by selling muffins. Seriously, they don't make money. Not as much as Qantas makes.
The mere threat of PIA will kill the subsidiary airlines that Qantas has spawn. Qantas is still propping up pathetic excuses for airlines such as Jetstar Vietnam.
Qantas post 24/8 will be the same it is now. However, greater disengagement, management who couldn't give a rats, and pilots still working hard to make a dollar to make the airline money.
Tiger's current situation does not do Qantas managements thoughts of outsourcing much justice. The Australian public has seen that safety is actually important, and that low fares do not mean a safe flight. Sure, Qantas' fare's will remain the same, but greater profits will go into ar*seholes back pockets, and on the other hand you have JB moving current offshore work back to Oz. It's a lose lose for Qantas I think... Labour Gvt helps the current pilots cause.
Either way, Joyce and Clifford are d*ckheads.
Cafe Jamcia Blue anyone?