Originally Posted by
BOAC
Unless something has fallen off or the a/c is wildly out of trim for some reason, sit on your hands, think about it, leave everything where it was for a few moments and THEN do something - as I say, thisi is fine as long as Hal is not doing something else..
Can we agree that if the Pilots would have followed this advise it is very highly likely that we would know nothing about an air France Flight 447 today ?!
Re your first paragraph:
I still haven't seen any evidence/indication that 'HAL' has significantly contributed to the entry into the unfortunate attitude of the flight that was not commanded for by the Pilots.
Even the THS moving NU I would consider commanded to some extent as thirty seconds full NU Elevator indicates the desire for more NU and thereby for support by the trim. If you consider the response of the AC sufficient you won't try to pull max aft for 30s (that's an eternity, when was the last time you pulled just 5s or 10s full aft ???).
This to me indicates to some extent they wanted more NU.
And asked for that.
And got that.
Tragically.