Hustler, there is nothing defensive about pilotabroad's post. Surely he is making a valid and creative point. I don't mean the sticker, that was just a throw away line. But when the AOA membership falls below 50%, not too long now, what then? Maybe it'll be time for a new union, one that will work with the company instead of fighting it just for the sake of fighting. That's what got the 49+ers into their predicament and that strategy will not save them. Any new union won't be recognised by IFALPA and other international bodies I hear you say, well so what I say other than pontificating, doing some brotherly back patting and thereby exacerbating the dispute here, I don't see much else and nothing constructive. The septics are good at solving industrial disputes aren't they - I don't think.